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		<title>By: Asia</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-girl.com/mac-apple/mac-over-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess my only issue with Ubuntu is that it&#039;s commercialized. I like that Linux is getting the much deserved attention it&#039;s been needing, I just prefer my old school ways. :)

Sorry about not checking up on my spam postings, the URL you posted pushed you to spam :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess my only issue with Ubuntu is that it&#8217;s commercialized. I like that Linux is getting the much deserved attention it&#8217;s been needing, I just prefer my old school ways. <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sorry about not checking up on my spam postings, the URL you posted pushed you to spam <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-girl.com/mac-apple/mac-over-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I understand it, you like things in Linux the way they were back in 1999 some time, with things pretty basic on command-line and very simplistic desktops such as AfterStep version 1.x and GNOME 1.2? If I remember correctly, Debian Potato is from the Linux kernel 2.2 days and there barely was any USB support even. I was always a fan of Red Hat Linux 7.1 and SUSE 7, 5 CD edition (boxed) :)

Anyway, one thing with Ubuntu I got thinking about today is that they will pull things off nicely if their userbase keeps getting larger and larger. Unlike a commercial enterprise like Apple where things are already perfectly implemented and Just Works™, Ubuntu with their Canonical needs a much larger marketshare to show hardware vendors that they are ready for prime time. Smaller unknown companies like System76.com provides this demand for a full hardware + open source OS bundle, and there are more small companies that does the same too. Linspire is doing a good job as well, and I read today about Dell thinking seriously about pre-installing Linux on future systems. It&#039;s great news, even though Dell has fallen to second place now among computer makers :-P

Source: 
http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&amp;l=en&amp;s=gen

PS. I adore my Macbook, even though it needs quadruple the RAM purchased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I understand it, you like things in Linux the way they were back in 1999 some time, with things pretty basic on command-line and very simplistic desktops such as AfterStep version 1.x and GNOME 1.2? If I remember correctly, Debian Potato is from the Linux kernel 2.2 days and there barely was any USB support even. I was always a fan of Red Hat Linux 7.1 and SUSE 7, 5 CD edition (boxed) <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, one thing with Ubuntu I got thinking about today is that they will pull things off nicely if their userbase keeps getting larger and larger. Unlike a commercial enterprise like Apple where things are already perfectly implemented and Just Works™, Ubuntu with their Canonical needs a much larger marketshare to show hardware vendors that they are ready for prime time. Smaller unknown companies like System76.com provides this demand for a full hardware + open source OS bundle, and there are more small companies that does the same too. Linspire is doing a good job as well, and I read today about Dell thinking seriously about pre-installing Linux on future systems. It&#8217;s great news, even though Dell has fallen to second place now among computer makers <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Source:<br />
<a href="http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&#038;l=en&#038;s=gen" rel="nofollow">http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/ideastorm/ideasinaction?c=us&#038;l=en&#038;s=gen</a></p>
<p>PS. I adore my Macbook, even though it needs quadruple the RAM purchased.</p>
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		<title>By: Asia</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-girl.com/mac-apple/mac-over-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Asia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 02:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(fixed iTV)

I just can&#039;t get into the whole Ubuntu thing, I remember when I first got into linux, an old friend recommended Red Hat as a starter distro - but I found Debian to be much easier to install and Potato was my first distro - didn&#039;t get far into the RH install and chucked it quickly. I have a bootable potato on a mini cd just to remind me how geeky I can be. 

Vim&#039;s the only text editor I use on Linux - wouldn&#039;t dream of using anything else - I cry at the site of emacs lol.

I&#039;ll pull out the X11 when I get a chance this week and let you know how it goes. I may just run potato on parallels with X11 too - that should be a neat experience. (Did I mention that I love my imac?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(fixed iTV)</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t get into the whole Ubuntu thing, I remember when I first got into linux, an old friend recommended Red Hat as a starter distro &#8211; but I found Debian to be much easier to install and Potato was my first distro &#8211; didn&#8217;t get far into the RH install and chucked it quickly. I have a bootable potato on a mini cd just to remind me how geeky I can be. </p>
<p>Vim&#8217;s the only text editor I use on Linux &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t dream of using anything else &#8211; I cry at the site of emacs lol.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll pull out the X11 when I get a chance this week and let you know how it goes. I may just run potato on parallels with X11 too &#8211; that should be a neat experience. (Did I mention that I love my imac?)</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-girl.com/mac-apple/mac-over-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Addition:
Ubuntu does play mp3 and aac files, of course, but not until you add it yourself in the repository configuration. It&#039;s the whole &quot;Ubuntu only wants to deal with free/liberal software&quot; thing. 

I myself at least prefer to have obvious multimedia features ready and done after the distro installation is complete. In these days you are not supposed to have to set those features up yourself, right? :D It should just work, as it does with iTunes and.. well.. Windows Media Player :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Addition:<br />
Ubuntu does play mp3 and aac files, of course, but not until you add it yourself in the repository configuration. It&#8217;s the whole &#8220;Ubuntu only wants to deal with free/liberal software&#8221; thing. </p>
<p>I myself at least prefer to have obvious multimedia features ready and done after the distro installation is complete. In these days you are not supposed to have to set those features up yourself, right? <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  It should just work, as it does with iTunes and.. well.. Windows Media Player <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.linux-girl.com/mac-apple/mac-over-pc/comment-page-1/#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 23:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The name for the final product is not iTV - that was just a codename. The product name is Apple TV :-). I don&#039;t know exactly which one is the better choice: the Apple TV is made for the living room out of the box and with an updated Front Row as far as I could see on the demonstration. But if you want something that works both as a computer and something that is part of your livingroom as a 2nd priority, then the Mac Mini is a better choice.

Apple TV: livingroom set-top box. Multimedia and prepared for television sets, sort of.
Mac Mini: a full-fledged computer that also has got some pretty decent livingroom features as a bonus.

The best thing to do is to talk to the nearest Apple retail store and ask them for a demonstration and make sure to know the exact difference in experiences and features between the two machines. I think most people will say the same thing as me if you ask around which one to spend money on. Another option is to save money for both :P

Regarding Linux ..

Ubuntu is an immature operating system for daily use - needs lots of tweaking because of the &quot;will never include full functionality from first install&quot;. It won&#039;t handle mp3 and AAC support is hard to configure.

I can highly recommend PC Linux OS for an out-of-the-box experience. Ever heard of that one? The website is simply pclinuxos.com so it&#039;s easy to find and a click away from a download. And yes, it is based on Debian behind the scenes, as far as I can remember.

For editing, I use GUI tools nowadays. But still, in an ssh session my favourite choices are vim and nano, the latter being great for jotting down memos and todos. VIM feels nicer for configuration files.

X11 for Mac is great. If not else to see Linux apps pop up on your Mac desk. Guaranteed to make you say &quot;wow!&quot;, and NOT in the Vista kind of way (thankfully) ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The name for the final product is not iTV &#8211; that was just a codename. The product name is Apple TV <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I don&#8217;t know exactly which one is the better choice: the Apple TV is made for the living room out of the box and with an updated Front Row as far as I could see on the demonstration. But if you want something that works both as a computer and something that is part of your livingroom as a 2nd priority, then the Mac Mini is a better choice.</p>
<p>Apple TV: livingroom set-top box. Multimedia and prepared for television sets, sort of.<br />
Mac Mini: a full-fledged computer that also has got some pretty decent livingroom features as a bonus.</p>
<p>The best thing to do is to talk to the nearest Apple retail store and ask them for a demonstration and make sure to know the exact difference in experiences and features between the two machines. I think most people will say the same thing as me if you ask around which one to spend money on. Another option is to save money for both <img src='http://www.linux-girl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding Linux ..</p>
<p>Ubuntu is an immature operating system for daily use &#8211; needs lots of tweaking because of the &#8220;will never include full functionality from first install&#8221;. It won&#8217;t handle mp3 and AAC support is hard to configure.</p>
<p>I can highly recommend PC Linux OS for an out-of-the-box experience. Ever heard of that one? The website is simply pclinuxos.com so it&#8217;s easy to find and a click away from a download. And yes, it is based on Debian behind the scenes, as far as I can remember.</p>
<p>For editing, I use GUI tools nowadays. But still, in an ssh session my favourite choices are vim and nano, the latter being great for jotting down memos and todos. VIM feels nicer for configuration files.</p>
<p>X11 for Mac is great. If not else to see Linux apps pop up on your Mac desk. Guaranteed to make you say &#8220;wow!&#8221;, and NOT in the Vista kind of way (thankfully) ..</p>
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